Your "Second Brain" Can't Lie To You - with Anna Quigley

Anna Quigley is basically the "Intuitive Yoda" for women in midlife looking to figure out their next chapter. 

Anna has spent over 40 years steeped in metaphysics, quantum physics, psychology, and spiritual studies....not just reading about it, but truly living it.

Just two years ago, she did the brave thing: she walked away from a job she loved that had turned toxic and fully committed to the work she knows she's meant to do. She’s here to help women clarify their purpose and bring it into fruition.

Anna and I dive deep into how we can reprogram our thoughts and why our gut feelings are scientifically referred to as the "second brain." We talk about the power of visualization (and sensory imagination!) - it’s not just for Olympic athletes anymore, but a key tool for creating our reality.

Anna shares her incredible, personal journey of listening to the "universal whisper" before it brought out the "club" (you'll know what I mean when you listen!). 

She explains why those gifts that come easily to us - the ones we tend to dismiss - are often the exact things we're here to share with the world.

If you've been feeling that little internal nudge that there’s something more waiting for you, or if you need a little help listening to your intuition, this episode is a beautiful guide. 

Anna even has a great tool - an intuition tracking sheet - that she’s sharing with our listeners!

You can find out more about Anna and connect with her here:

• Website: IntuitionGift.com

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Remember, midlife isn’t the end - it’s just the beginning of a new, exciting chapter! Keep thriving, keep shining, and I’ll see you next time!

Transcript

Speaker 0:00

Hello, and welcome to today's episode of Thrive after 45. I'm Denise Drink Walter heart whisperer, midlife mirror and mentor. Every week I am honored to share energy and space with inspiring guests whose stories reflect so many possibilities of thriving beyond 45. Together we'll uncover the whispers of the heart, the power of midlife transformation, and the wisdom that fuels expansion. What if the next chapter of your life could be shaped by the power of your own intuition? Today's guest, Anna Quigley, has spent over 40 years immersed in metaphysics, quantum physics, psychology. And spiritual studies, not just learning them, but living them. She has taught meditation and visualization trained in the corporate world for decades, and now coaches, women and cancer patients to visualize wellness and step into their next stage with intention. Two years ago, she walked away from a job that she loved that had become toxic and committed fully to the work. She knows the work that she's here to do. In the six months since launching her business, she has already impacted dozens of lives. Anna is a speaker and a transformation cat. Transformational Catalyst, igniting inspiration while her clients do the inner work and someone once dubbed her the Intuitive Yoda, a title she now proudly carries at her core. Anna helps women clarify their purpose for the next part of their lives and bring it fully into fruition. Anna. What a privilege and a pleasure to have you on our show today. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 2 1:59

Oh, thank you, Denise. I'm so delighted to be talking with you. I feel so connected with you.

Speaker 2:06

So great. So I would love to begin with a, with a. Audience and myself understanding. I hear these terms a lot. I, I have to admit, I don't fully understand metaphysics, quantum physics. I understand psychology and spiritual work, you know, however that comes to be. But I'm curious if you can give us just some idea around, what do you mean when you say metaphysics? Quantum physics,

Speaker 2 2:41

I. Oh, let's start with a simple question, right?

Speaker 2:45

Yeah,

Speaker 2 2:46

yeah. You, I

Speaker 2:47

dig graded.

Speaker 2 2:48

I dig. Graded. Goodness, boy. Okay, put me on the hotspot here. Well, metaphysics literally means beyond the physical. Beyond physical. Um, and yeah, which, which makes, which makes total sense. Quantum physics. And, and I am not a scientist, although I play one in my own head because I love science. I'm a little bit of a science. Gee, I love the love that, the why behind and, uh, but everything's energy. Everything, every cell in our body, every organ in our body communicates with every other one, and they do it energetically, which is extraordinary when you think about it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Particularly when you start thinking about listening to the divine guidance, the inner guidance, uh, intuition. Mm-hmm. Which is the more common name we all know about the gut feeling, you know, that's the most common, the gut feeling, right? Well, the gut and intestinal areas actually scientifically been called the, referred to as the second brain.

Speaker 3:56

Okay. It's,

Speaker 2 3:58

it's that significant in, um, working with, you know, moving energy and bringing these insights and awareness. So why is it, you know, you get that queasy feeling mm-hmm. You know, you know, you're, that you're picking up energy and it's, I, I don't know why that seems to be the, I think it's just the most obvious Sure. Um, of ways to recognize that. So, uh, it's. Where everything is, everything is energy and everything talks to everything else, and everything starts with a thought, right? That's how to create things. It, you know, everything's created twice. Uh, I've heard and use that before. First with the thought. Now we don't have to think to breathe. We have that automatically down, but it's so fast. I wanna raise my hand. I wanna grab the mouse that starts with a, here's what I wanna do. My hand then moves to the mouse. It's so instantaneous.

Speaker 4:56

Yeah.

Speaker 2 4:56

But the power of that, and that's, that's kind what I love is that we can use those very. Energy centered if you'll to reprogram or re-engineer our thoughts. It works both ways. So by changing, ah, changing our language, changing the words, the way we think about things. We can literally reprogram our brain. Our mind does not know the difference between what we imagine, if you will. Right. And reality it has, it doesn't know. It's like, oh, okay, you, you know, you're living on a beach in Hawaii. Okay? Oh, okay. You visualize that. Not you. You get a feeling of it. You feel the salt air, you know, against your skin and the sound of the waves lapping against the shore. You bring in every sense.

Speaker 5:53

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 5:53

And create that where. I can feel it. Just even talking about that, when you get that full body experience, your brain's going, oh, okay. That's what you want. Let's, okay, we're, we're, we're moving to that. As opposed to, oh God, I hate where I'm living. I don't like where I'm living. I just, you know, it's the focus on. Where you wanna be, where you want to go, as if, as if it's already there. That's the power and the ability starts with that to be able to reprogram, reprogram.

Speaker 6:29

I love what you're saying, and specifically around we have that capacity to make those changes within ourselves. And of course, the whole foundational piece of our show Thrive after 45 is giving our listeners. The power back to them, which was never given, uh, never taken away, even though it feels like it has been.

Speaker 2 6:54

Yeah.

Speaker 6:54

But we are moving that needle. So you are doing anything and everything for you by you because of you. And when you do it through that lens, everything can change. And so as you're sharing, um, visualizing, which I love back in university. A few years ago, I, I recall our sports, um, center at the university just beginning to understand the power of visualization in sports.

Speaker 2 7:29

Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 7:32

And boy, I just got, I just got shivers. Did that ever change, quote unquote, the game,

Speaker 2 7:40

every game. I, I, yeah. Olympic athletes, that's a major part of their training. I have a friend in Europe. That's what she does. She works with ballet dancers and football players and soccer players and works with them on that visual. That visual, right. They, they visualize themselves winning the race. They visualize that as already done. I even as a kid, my dad was a big fan of Dale Carnegie. Right? Okay. Power positive thinking that was a really early, you know, forerunner of this kind of metaphysical. Um,

Speaker 8:18

right

Speaker 2 8:19

and understanding, and I grew up learning to play golf. It's like visualize the, the ball going in the hole before you hit it. My, you know, and I can still find parking spaces better than anybody because my dad learned that. And early on I, I had that where it's like, no. Okay. And it, and it always made it easier. It's, it's, it seemed crazy at the time. It's like, oh, this is, you know,

Speaker 8:44

right.

Speaker 2 8:45

How do we do this? But there again, there's science behind it.

Speaker 8:49

Right. Do you, do you find Anna, that with your clients. You go big or you start small.'cause I, I, I question this all the time. If I go too big, I shut it down before I even start, because that, that's never gonna Thank you human, right? Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Then yeah, when I go small. Yellow butterfly of course, that day that I said, you know, and I didn't focus on it and perseverate so that I was grabbing for it, like make it happen. I said it. Then I just let the day go by, and then the evening I did one more thing to anchor that in. And in the morning I woke up and I thanked for all the butterflies that came through. And of course, I was seeing not live butterflies because that's what my body originally thought. We're moving into winter here. I'm not gonna see live butterflies. And of course, what did I see butterflies on, right? Butterflies. Three or four different kinds. And I was like, okay. Ah. So do you start small? Do you go big? How do you and why?

Speaker 2 10:05

I, I, I'm gonna comment on something that of course, that just happened, and then I will answer your question. Sure. You were talking about stressing, I, you, I could feel that through Zoom. Seriously. It, I know. It's like tinking, a hose, nothing can move. And the, and then you immediately shifted into that. And then I just kind of let her let it, it's a little bit of surrendering, which I struggled with for a long time. It's like, no, I'm Type A. I can't let go. Yeah. But that's where the power is because you're opening up for this energy to, to move, right? Sure. No, starting small, but mostly starting small. It there's, it depends on the person and what their background and how much experience they have. Perfect. But there's. There's inner work, there's awareness that we have. I, I think them as breadcrumbs. Even throughout my life, there have been moments where this passions I have for. Purpose Yes. Has been popping up and popping up and a career and doing this and doing that, and oh, I should, this is more practical. All of those things have kind of kept it at bay a bit. Right. And as, as I've gotten older, as I've gotten to, you know, midlife and beyond, um, there. Noise has gotten that noise, if you will. That urge has gotten stronger.

Speaker 11:34

Mm.

Speaker 2 11:35

And it's gotten clearer. So we'll start usually small. Mm-hmm. Um, I, I like the analogy of, you know, when we've had a a, a gold chain get knotted, you know, you put it together. Yes. It's, you just start very gently with the outer level and you loosen that. And when you loosen that, then the next thread opens up. And it's that kind of a process of exploring where are they? Mm-hmm. What's been the experience, what's the situation?'cause we're all different. Is it, you know, empty nesters or

Speaker 12:09

Right.

Speaker 2 12:10

America has shifted or, yeah. I've done that career. It's fine. It was great. It's successful. My life is good, but

Speaker 12:16

yeah.

Speaker 2 12:16

Right. Um, and it's looking at those little pieces, so I, I tend to start with that. Mm-hmm. But with the intention. Big. Big is possible. Big is big, is there. Big is what's been whispering to us throughout our life and. You know, I don't know about you, but most, I think of us in college, it's Oh, that's not practical. You, I wanna be a philosophy major. Mm. Yeah. What are you gonna do with that? Right. I have a lot of artist friends who ended up in different directions because you can't make a living as an artist. And so the ones I've talked to are doing extremely well now. Mm-hmm. Living their passion, but it came midlife. Mm-hmm. Because we've gone through the education and you know, the first half of life is. It's like, it's practice. It really is, right? It's like, let's become an adult. Let's get educated, we'll figure out relationships and you know, we're, do we get a a career and let's get that going? And we got that under our belt. We get comfortable with that. And then we've noticed that. There's something else. Yeah, there's, there's more waiting for me. I can feel it.

Speaker 13:30

Yes.

Speaker 2 13:31

And how exciting is that?

Speaker 13:33

Right?

Speaker 2 13:34

Really. That is so exciting. And there there's so many examples of people famous, obviously famous people who didn't find. This purpose becomes successful until forties, fifties, sixties, seventies. Of course, I were, you know, growing up with what, who, grandma Moses was always the, she wasn't famous until she was 70 something. And

Speaker 13:55

yeah.

Speaker 2 13:55

You know, there's, there's so many, so many more. But we open up, I think we've, and it's. It's not starting again. I, I've talked to

Speaker 14:05

Yes.

Speaker 2 14:06

That are a little bit of a afraid. It's like, oh my gosh, I'm actually even a family member wanted to change careers at like 35, 40. Yeah. And she goes, oh, it's too late. And I'm like, it's not, you go for three or four more years to school. And you've still got 30 years of practice. Hey, what you love? Yeah. But she wasn't ready to, to do that. She, there was a block and Yeah. You know, at that point, uh, and we all have to make our own choices and decisions and

Speaker 14:35

Right.

Speaker 2 14:35

Take action or not. It's, it's, right. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 14:40

Yeah. Yeah. I, I think it's really, really important the conversation we're having right now in terms of stages. And what people get to go through their life experiences to points in their lives. And there are different, I was, I was recording an episode with, um, somebody yesterday, Tatiana, who was talking about teenagers. And there are certain things as young children that the brain isn't fully developed in order to be able to do some styles of problem solving. And it's just not possible. And, and this is coming back through in today's conversation, there are certain things that we get to live through that give us. The wisdom that isn't possible prior, and it's not because you're not capable, it's timing. It's. Experience. It's not, it's, no, it's not bad. It's reality, I believe, anyway. Yeah,

Speaker 2 15:47

I agree. And we get to a point where we start assessing and evaluating things differently.

Speaker 15:54

Yes.

Speaker 2 15:55

What's really important is the big career with the title. Is that really important or is that. I get chills even thinking about it. That self fulfillment, that doing that thing that just brings you passion or joy every time you do it. You know, they say if you're doing what you love, you, you'll never work a day. But what you are finding that if that's not already there. But you build on it, you can. You're not, again, not starting again, you're basing on all this extraordinary wisdom that we've gained and we have so much experience and so many revised and modified Fine tuned.

Speaker 16:37

Yes,

Speaker 2 16:38

yes. Perspective. And we go, yeah, that, that's doesn't have the value.

Speaker 16:43

Yeah.

Speaker 2 16:44

In my life that it did when I was 20. When I was 20, it was important to do this, and that's great. That's, that's the life cycle. We have different purposes at different times in our life.

Speaker 16:56

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 16:56

Uh, I just actually just talked to a, a guy that's like 31 and he says, I'm going through my quarter life crisis, and I said, I did that one too, you know? Mm-hmm. It was like, okay, so these stages of our life come. Opportunities.

Speaker 17:12

Yes. Thank you.

Speaker 2 17:13

Yeah. Right.

Speaker 17:15

Yes.

Speaker 2 17:15

It's, it's a gift and it's like, now's the time you've built these. I know for my self, I needed to gain some confidence

Speaker 17:25

mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 17:27

And doing these other things and my ability in the fact that yes, I'm, I'm good at this, I'm good at that, or this is a gift and. As, and I will say as women, I don't mean to generalize, but I, I know this to be personally true and for most of my, the women that I know,

Speaker 17:47

right.

Speaker 2 17:47

We tend not to value the things that come easily to us. Right, right.

Speaker 17:51

You

Speaker 2 17:52

know, my, your, your friend will tell you, oh, Denise, you're so good at that. Oh, well, yeah, that's fine. That's just something I do. That's just me, you know, this like, thank you. Nice compliment, but dismissing it.

Speaker 18:04

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 18:05

And we have it backwards because those are the things that we really need to be paying attention to, not the things we've strived for. Like you're, when you had your energy and I worked really hard for that. Mm-hmm. Well, that's great. You've learned through that, but that's not where the inspiration comes. That's not where the creativity comes, and that's not the gift. Those, those innate abilities, those things that just you do so well,

Speaker 18:31

right?

Speaker 2 18:32

That maybe most of your friends don't and they admire you. How do you do that? That's your g that's one of the gifts that you're here to share. And we start becoming aware, I think in, in, in midlife, we start like, wait a minute. That's part of the reassessing.

Speaker 18:48

Right? And, and I like how you're sharing that. That's something that we get to do.

Speaker 2 18:54

We get to it's

Speaker 18:55

right.

Speaker 2 18:56

Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 18:59

And some. We have this conversation and we have this show. One of the biggest goals that I have for this show is to show everyone that we have choices all the way along, and no matter where you've come from and what your life trajectory has been to this point, there are always nuggets of golden information when we take those reflect. Times when we actually dig into where have I been? How did I get through that? What are my strengths? What are my skills, and how can I capitalize on those? And to not have guilt, remorse, shame. Anything negative about giving back to ourselves, because when we have an empty cup, we think we're filling everybody else's, but it's not even close to what could happen if we start to give back to ourselves. And I dare say no. I'm very proud to say we should be first on our own list.

Speaker 2 20:04

But we weren't raised that way for the most part. Oh abs, it was the opposite. So we're really relearning, not just for ourselves, but for the generation to come. And I think that's one of the key things that we can. Offer to the next two or three generations behind us, or you know, younger than us, that Yes, do this, listen to that calling, listen to that joy, that passion. That's what you're here for.

Speaker 20:36

Yeah.

Speaker 2 20:36

And don't be, you know, don't feel shy or embarrassed that, oh, I'm take, I'm doing something I love. I should be taking care of everybody else. It's like, that's how you take care of everybody else.

Speaker 20:48

Exactly

Speaker 2 20:49

by doing who you are. Better than you can, you know better than you can do it. Yeah. I mean, as, as well as you can, can be who you are and giving what you have to give. So,

Speaker 21:00

and when you marry all of you. Incredible knowledge and experience, um, that you share with your information about, you know, metaphysics, quantum physics, your psychology work, the spiritual work. You package that all together and package I'm using in quotations for those who aren't seeing the video part. Um, you put that together in such a way that they, that your clients get to see themselves for. Their genuine for their authenticity, for their self-love and compassion, and there's nothing better than that kind of role. So, wow. Thank you for saying goodbye to the corporate that wasn't serving your needs.

Speaker 2 21:49

Yeah,

Speaker 21:50

and,

Speaker 2 21:50

and I, yeah, it was, it was a hard decision, but, oh. It was because, yeah, for the most part, I loved what I was doing and I miss the people still that I was working with.

Speaker 22:02

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 22:02

But it was critical. It, it, it. You know, you know, they say it's like the universal whisper and then it gets louder, and then it shouts, and then it brings out the club. Um, and or the bat, you know, I've heard, and it's like, are you paying attention? I've had a few examples of that, um, different opportunities, and I'm, I'm, I, the bat was I could see them picking up the bat, you know, and getting, yeah. I'm like, okay, I'm, I'm, I, it is time. And I, I made a, a radical shift. A radical shift in, in doing that and rented my house out and took six months and went traveling and went three months in Europe and a couple months around, you know, the us Something I'd always wanted to do. Mm-hmm. And I needed to like separate from that. Toxic from that negative energy. Yeah. And find myself again. Mm-hmm. That was, that was the, the gift and the catalyst. It's like, I had, and, and just day to day, you don't need to take, you know, a year off. Yeah. Run to India or do anything like that.

Speaker 23:13

Sure.

Speaker 2 23:14

Which I've done, but just getting out in nature or finding quiet time during the day to let that. Whisper be heard. Mm-hmm. Before the bat, you know, comes out.

Speaker 23:26

Yeah,

Speaker 2 23:26

yeah, yeah. Because we can't avoid that. We can't.

Speaker 23:29

Right. And these conversations will help people see that others have done this, others have. Made it to the bat stage. And they're saying, had I been able to actually pick up on some other things, I wouldn't have had to go to that depth that I did in order to come out. Um, and so that's why we have these types of conversations to bring things to light, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 23:57

Yeah. And, and that's one of the key things that I'm. Passionate about doing.

Speaker 24:04

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 24:05

It's sharing some tools and tips and tricks and all the little things that I've learned, the little things in my, in my spiritual, emotional, personal toolbox, if you will. Sure. That have helped me, you know, smooth those bumpy rides out or recognize them before they become major issues, and we're always, we're always free to take action or not.

Speaker 24:29

Right.

Speaker 2 24:30

But learning to recognize and get familiar with that, those impulses, those physical sensations, those signs that come literally through signs or Right. A little voice. The little whisper or the gut feeling through, through the senses because

Speaker 24:47

mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 24:48

Actually, uh, can I, I'll throw a little bit of Yeah. Science too.'cause this, I, this I really found fascinating when I was doing research. We are. We experience 11 million bits of information every second, E every second. So, you know, you think about it, did the air and the sounds, every sound, the hum of the light bulb by me and whatnot, everything. They come through our senses. 99%, only 1% is picked up by the brain.

Speaker 25:18

Whoa.

Speaker 2 25:20

That I, that was my reaction. Did I read that right? Come on. You know? Yeah. But think about it. It makes so much sense when you start looking at how intuition, our inner divine guidance speaks to us. It speaks to us through the gut reaction. It's that little quiet whisper. It's like, turn left. Turn left. What, why, you know? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You, you often don't know why.

Speaker 25:46

Right.

Speaker 2 25:47

But it's being, you're being guided to a better situation or safety or what, you know, I have so many examples of that too, from myself and clients, but, uh, so it makes sense that those auditory signals or people, you, you know, if I hear somebody talk about a book. Right. Three in a row in a very short period. I go, but I go get the book. Of course, you know, there's something in there for me or

Speaker 26:11

mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 26:11

You know, or you're seeing a sign you know about, well, where to go on vacation. You keep seeing the same thing. You go, okay, okay. I guess I'm gonna Hawaii, not the mountain.

Speaker 26:20

Hmm.

Speaker 2 26:20

So many ways, but coming through all of these senses that kind of directing us, you know, it's even walking out the door. It's like, oh yeah, you forgot such and such. Well, that's not your rational mind. That's your intuition. That's your, that's that guidance going. Don't forget.

Speaker 26:36

Yeah.

Speaker 2 26:37

Taking the check to the bank, it'd be good if you had the check in your hand,

Speaker 26:41

right?

Speaker 2 26:42

Little things. Yeah. That's not planned. That's not strategized. That's,

Speaker 26:46

yeah.

Speaker 2 26:47

So many ways. So many ways that it can help, but I, yeah, I just, it makes, I love the logic that that's why we, the more we learn to recognize and listen to these signals that come through our senses. Um, the ease, the easier and the smoother our path can be.

Speaker 27:06

Do you find, um, that some people have more auditory, some people have more? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 27:14

Yeah. Sure. And, and it can come in every way. Some days, you know, maybe every, every sense is involved or other times, right? You know, you're stronger there. Depends on what's going on in your life. You know, we have chaos around us all the time, right?

Speaker 27:30

Oh, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 27:31

Sometimes that's hard to hear the little voice. Uh, but the, but it's easier to feel that gut feeling, you know? Why am I going, I'm starting to walk out the door and you go, mm. And then you realize you've left. The one thing that you needed to take with you. Okay.

Speaker 27:45

Right.

Speaker 2 27:46

Paying attention to those, recognizing those is such a strong first start.

Speaker 27:52

Perfect. Um,

Speaker 2 27:53

if, if you're not already familiar with, with, you know, the little voice or recognizing it like, I know your voice.

Speaker 28:01

Right.

Speaker 2 28:01

Right. And go, yeah, it's Denise. I don't have to say who is this? Yeah,

Speaker 28:06

right. Exactly. Yeah. There's a familiarity.

Speaker 2 28:09

Absolutely. Yeah,

Speaker 28:11

yeah, yeah, yeah. Connection, which has always been there.

Speaker 2 28:16

Always. And we, and we all have it.

Speaker 28:20

Yes. Thank you.

Speaker 2 28:22

We all have it. Um, you know, I had someone in a workshop I just did. She goes, I, I, I can't visualize. I can't visualize. And so I don't really like using the word visualization because it's limits to one sense sensory imagination. I prefer that term because it is every sense, again, like reprogramming the brain, using every sense you wanna buy a new house or a new car. Mm-hmm. Okay. You know, how does it feel yourself in the car driving it, driving down the road? What's the smell of the interior and the, all of those, the more senses you can get involved.

Speaker 29:01

Right?

Speaker 2 29:01

In every choice, in every decision. Um, again, you're kind of moving yourself to clarity.

Speaker 29:07

Nice.

Speaker 2 29:08

And then, you know, and looking back through your life for the little breadcrumbs.

Speaker 29:17

Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:18

What are those moments in your life that just illuminated you?

Speaker 29:23

Yes, yes. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 29:25

Let you up physically, emotionally?

Speaker 29:28

Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:30

Goosebumps, or just sit, just you. You know, emotional almost to the point of tears sometimes. Of

Speaker 29:38

course. When you really Yeah.

Speaker 2 29:39

Feeling that passion.

Speaker 29:40

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Something in that isn't there? Yes.

Speaker 2 29:49

Everything

Speaker 29:49

in that,

Speaker 2 29:50

honestly, everything is in

Speaker 29:51

that. Of course, of course. Yeah. Um, you mentioned, uh. In probably the middle that when we were talking about, when I was asking about small mm-hmm. Um, or large big picture. And you said, um, depending on the person and other things, but starting small and then setting the intention for the big mm-hmm. I'm gonna circle back to that. What do you mean by an intention in terms of how do you do that?

Speaker 2 30:25

Uh, well, part, part of it starts with assessing what brings joy. Mm-hmm. What are your, what are those things as we talked about? Right. What are the things you just innately.

Speaker 30:36

Yeah.

Speaker 2 30:37

Uh, at one point I, and I read this, Cheryl Richardson had this in a book that I read years and years ago, and she goes, if you're not clear, ask your friends and your family, the people know you. Really well. Mm-hmm. Ask two questions and I still do this and I still have my clients do this. What do you, as friends and family, what do you think? I love, absolutely love. And the second one was really telling, what do you think I'm good at?

Speaker 31:07

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 31:08

What do you think I'm good at? It's, it can be surprising, you know, for me, the, what do you think? I love everybody. Travel, travel, travel. That was number one. Every, you know, which is true, but there were surprises with the, what do you think I'm good at? That's when I started realizing I was dismissing things. That just came naturally to me because I did, I'm like, um, I, at one point I started it. Literally at like 48, 49. Mm-hmm. Need your life implosion. Moved to another state, started an import business, which I'd never done before. And was figuring out what the heck is this next step? Mm-hmm. I know there's something, you know, here, this is the perfect opportunity to begin again and ask these questions. And one of the responses, several of the responses, oh, you're so good at accessorizing your, your home and your, you know, scarves and jewelry, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, and just that attitude. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. That's very nice. E yeah. Gives me something I can actually use, you know? I was so disappointed. It's like, come on, give him something real. Um, but what was it? It hit me like, in a good way, the club over the head. When I was on my first buying trip, I went to Indy. Had I had been there, it's another part of the story, but, uh, every shop, every street vendor, every stall that had, mm-hmm. Accessories that had handbags and jewelry and scarves and small furniture. I made a beeline to oh oh there, and it was like this major, ah, you know, aha moment. I'm like, that's how that fits in. Mm-hmm. This love that I have. For accessorizing this gift that I have that I didn't value very much, you know? Thank you. It's nice. I appreciate you think I look good, but, um, that's how I used it. So that was what I started importing because I had a passion for that and

Speaker 33:06

mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 33:08

It fits together now. I see. Yeah. So it was so easy for me to dismiss that is. You know. No, tell me something tangible, something, something's really substantive, but that was it.

Speaker 33:19

It was there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 33:21

It was there. It was always there. And I, yes. Wasn't valuing it.

Speaker 33:25

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 33:26

Because it came easily, it came

Speaker 33:28

Right,

Speaker 2 33:28

right. Separately,

Speaker 33:29

right. Yeah. You're looking outside for the big answer.

Speaker 2 33:34

Yeah. It's Dorothy in the red shoes, you know? Right. You've, it's, you've always had it, you know, click on your heels. It's, you've always had it. Love that, getting it in and whether we, you know, see it. So it's it, you know, you start looking back at those moments. Mm-hmm. It sort of starts to illuminate the bigger picture. Then it's like, okay, now how do we work with that? What do we do with Yes, that's not gonna manifest. And that's where we start doing the reverse engineering with sensory imagination. And, you know, working with some of the, the tools of, okay, how can this practically either become a business or how can you create, how can you give back to the community? Mm

Speaker 34:14

mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 34:15

You know, is it in whatever method that is, it could be a thousand different ways that could happen. But then you find, start working on the tangible. Right. How does this, you know, how does this, how do we bring this to fruition?

Speaker 34:29

Right. Right. Um, so this, I I, I love everything we're talking about. I'm just, I'm getting little tingles all the time as we're talking.

Speaker 2 34:43

I could, I could stay on here for days, literally.

Speaker 34:50

Um. Why is it that you are doing what you're doing now?

Speaker 2 34:57

Because I have to literally

Speaker 35:00

Oh, I love that. Yes.

Speaker 2 35:02

I, I, I have to, oh, see, now I start, I'm seriously almost ready to cry. I. That's

Speaker 35:08

okay. You can cry on my show. We

Speaker 2 35:10

do this. Tears of

Speaker 35:13

joy.

Speaker 2 35:15

It's, and it's, I get this, this welling up in me because this has been. These have been breadcrumbs. I remember literally like at 30, crying to my mom going, I know there's something I'm supposed to be doing, but I don't know what it is. And you know, it's like, it's just, it's there. I can feel it, but I don't know what it is. And it's just kind of been. Coming and there was such an angst and I, yes. And I was a muck when I was younger at making decisions. I was so fearful. What if I make a wrong decision? You know? It took time and that's where those, that first half of my life, right. Was so valuable because I learned that no, you can just change your mind. You could just go, just turn this way, you don't have to go back. Mm-hmm. You just turn a different direction. Yeah. You just stop. What's not working, you let go of what's not serving you.

Speaker 36:11

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 36:11

Like a job and you, and you move to the, you move to the next. And this has just permeated my life to do this. And when I took that, I mean, I had started interviewing people about how they found their purpose several years while I was doing my. Career. Right. My professional career.

Speaker 36:31

Right.

Speaker 2 36:31

We just didn't have enough time for it. So that was the, the gift that I gave myself was that year to really stop and, and think, and it could be a walk around the neighborhood, it could be five minutes before you go into feed the kids. Doesn't have to be that. Yes. Stealing those moments.

Speaker 36:50

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 36:50

Um, but that gave me, it's like, if, if not now, when. Yeah. You know, mom, what are you going to do? This is, this has been showing up. This is what you're doing. Yeah. So now I'm figuring out how to do it. Yeah. And yeah, it's like I didn't step into this going, oh, I know. Exactly. You know?

37:08

Yeah.

Speaker 2 37:08

No, yeah. I didn't know the import business either, but I learned it and I figured it out. And as long as I keep. I'm learning while I'm, while I'm sharing, I'm learning while I'm speaking. Of course, while I'm, I am igniting, you know, the flame in, in, in other people. So of course it continues for me, but that's this feeling that I had, that surge is how I know I'm spot on.

Speaker 37:34

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 37:35

Would I have doubts about. How am I gonna make this work and how am I do it because my business is still new. Um, I get that feeling. It's like, no, just stop questioning, you know, better, you know, this is, it's gonna work out. Yeah. It's what you're supposed, what you're supposed to be doing. Whatever that looks like. However, that's showing up. And every day something, oh, it's, oh, oh, that'd be fun. I can do that. Let's go that. So it's, it's morphing. It's constantly morphing, but as of course, as long as I sharing and giving, and. On my, on my path, I, I only get to see about three feet in front of me. Mm-hmm. For the most part in my life. You know, get clarity for that far. I step in faith and mm-hmm. Walk those three feet and then the next three feet.

Speaker 38:19

Yeah. It unfolds as you are available for it. And of course your path has changed so much from corporate to where you are now that you're. I would suggest, I'm guessing that you are way more open for all of this to be received, which is a journey in itself. Yeah, and I, I absolutely love, I am all about, for those people who listen to my show from the beginning or halfway, you know, this is my jam in terms of, I have a deep belief that. I will never stop learning until my last breath because that's who I am. That's what I'm about. I'm all about learning, and it doesn't have to be, I used to think it had to be the book as I have a master's in educational leadership, right? I always thought that was learning, but boy, if I over. Have I ever opened up to all that is available? And I know I have so much more ahead of me. And what a joy to be able to access. Um, these conversations I learned in every conversation I got to have. And today was no exception. It was just as rich as I imagined and more so I must have put intention into.

Speaker 2 39:43

There you go. We create our own reality. Right.

Speaker 39:46

Right.

Speaker 2 39:46

We do. We do our intent. We set and we talked about that early on. We set our intention for this and

Speaker 39:53

Exactly.

Speaker 2 39:54

Yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 39:54

exactly. Anna, is there anything you would love to share before we close off today's episode? Something of an extra nugget, a pearl, uh, question. Whatever comes up for you. What would you like to share with our audience? Well,

Speaker 2 40:14

two things. Uh, yes, it is never too late. Just please, please, please remember that it is never too late, no matter where you are, what your circumstances are, your situation. It is never, ever too late to change, to, to shift. And my absolute favorite quote, um, is the journey of a thousand miles begins with one single step. It's all you have to take or three feet, however you want to think about it, whatever, sure. But it's that one tiny thing and it's, it's uh, it's inertia. You start that energy moving and the more you move toward it, the universe rushes up behind you to go, okay, here we go. And things pop up and synchronicities happen, and opportunities come up that you could not have. Thought of. So it's, it's, it requires an act of faith.

Speaker 41:10

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 41:11

Quite often. Mm-hmm.

41:12

But

Speaker 2 41:13

again, getting familiar with that and comfortable with and recognizing those signals and how they speak to you, you build confidence. So, uh, I, I have a, um, intuition, little recap and a tracking sheet. I, again, kind of the scientist

Speaker 41:32

Sure.

Speaker 2 41:33

Mentality. We might have one of those insights and two days later you go, what was that? What happened with that? So, you know, I have a little tracking sheet that I'd love to, to give to anyone listening or, you know, download that, use that, or just find a special jar. And when these things happen, write down.

Speaker 41:53

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 41:53

What happened? Yeah. When did it come through an auditory queue or a right. How did it come? And you start seeing that jar fill up of all of these moments of how you're being guided in your life. Love that. Noting. But I, but I have a tracking sheet to kind of get them started.

Speaker 42:12

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 42:12

With that. Perfect. I'd love, I'd love to share. So,

Speaker 42:15

perfect. Well, maybe, we'll, um, if you're okay with it, we'd love to put something like that even in the show notes, um, if that's doable.

Speaker 2 42:23

Absolutely. Intuition gift.com they can go to.

Speaker 42:27

Perfect. Awesome.

Speaker 2 42:28

Directly. Yeah,

Speaker 42:29

we, we will. Excellent. We'll have that in the show notes for you to click on and grab and go. We always have in the show notes any way that Anna wants you to be able to access her and find her. All of those are always in our show notes and we'll add that. Uh, okay. Yeah, for sure. Tracking sheet. Love it. I love it. Um, an honor and a privilege to share time, energy, and space with you today. I have learned. I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 43:02

It's just I'm so elevated now. I feel like I could do anything the rest of the day and.

Speaker 43:06

And you can.

Speaker 2 43:08

And I can. I

Speaker 43:10

love it. Oh, I love it. I do too. Thank you for joining us today, and if this, anything in our conversation has resonated for you by you because of you, please make sure that you do something that helps you move your needle in whatever way. Makes sense for you right now. Follow, share, leave reviews. We love all of it. Thank you for being with us and for being, um, part of our show Thrive after 45. Have a wonderful day.